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27 millionaire fathers of large secular Moscow have more than 100 children in total (photo)

Even an unpleasant message that a hundred tons of kerosene got stuck somewhere near Barnaul is not able to distract the head of the Neftetransservice company from fulfilling his father's duties. If he is with children, then only with them, and not with a mobile phone. He will crawl on the carpet, play hide-and-seek and Cossack robbers, and God knows what else, no matter what the child amuses himself with. “There is no father more reverent and loving than Vadim,” friends say. Moreover, this love is rare for the Central Administrative District of the property: everyday and everyday, and not once a year on the occasion of the birthday of the heir. There are dads-holidays, and Vadim - dad-weekdays. The Aminovs travel only with children - their romantic trips with their wife Stella can be counted on the fingers. Main tradition in this religious family - Shabbat. Before the Sabbath meal, candles are lit at home on Patriarchal Stella with the twin girls, and Vadim and the boys make a blessing on challah and wine. On the issue of pocket money, the Aminovs are also conservative: “We give, of course, but the amount must be justified. We try to explain to children that part of it must be donated to charity. Children from an orphanage or a cat shelter.” Aminov's favorite admonition to six children, including little Aron, is not to be lazy. As in the song: "Do not be lazy, it will be useful, there will be a pie by the fall."

Andrei Molchanov, six children. By the New Year, the Molchanovs send touching postcards to their friends with their family portrait. Every year a new photo. Costume shoots are produced by mother Lisa, but Andrey, a busy man, the head of the LSR Group development company, enthusiastically supports the undertaking. The eldest son Egor graduated first from the Swiss Le Rosey, then from New York University and is about to return home: “My son walked around Manhattan in a T-shirt with the Russian flag. He is a greater patriot than many of his Moscow peers,” says the father. Five younger ones with Old Testament names - Nikon, Susanna, Thomas, Luke, Seraphim - live a rich life. cultural life in the house on Rublyovka. Restless mom and dad come up with tours of interest: either on a buggy in Peru, then to the Museum of Science and Technology in Munich, or to Real Madrid matches at the Santiago Bernabeu. On Christmas Eve, the whole team goes to the village of Pidma in the Leningrad Region, where Molchanov's great-great-grandfather was born. There, the author of ZilArt put up a Russian hut with a stove and antique furniture from Abramtsevo and Talashkino. Pastoral entertainment: cutting Russian olives, decorating a Christmas tree and sitting at a large table for a long time. In addition to the house, they have a farm there, where before breakfast all the Molchanovs go to collect eggs and pet sheep, cows and rabbits. Their family is still near Moscow, and the younger ones slowly get used to the smell of the barnyard, but their parents do not despair. Molchanov is a believer: “Children should grow up fair, help the weak and be strong in spirit. In general, life is a difficult thing, and only faith will help them survive in difficult situations.

Herman Khan, four children. The tenth Forbes of the country has the main investments - offspring, in the upbringing of which he takes a lively part. “I call my dad twice a day,” says his eldest daughter, Tatler debutante Eva. "He thinks family is the most important thing." The khans travel a lot together, and the destinations are not chosen for family vacations - they went on an expedition to Svalbard, scuba-dived in the Galapagos, traveled through the mountains to Machu Picchu. “And we've never been to Saint-Tropez,” Eva laughs. “Our parents are not interested.” A member of the Presidium of the Jewish Congress at home also does not deviate from kashrut. “As a family, we watch films on a Jewish theme, we read books in turn. Our favorite film is “And Everything Illuminated”, we saw it eight times. In every city we visit places and synagogues important for Jews.” With his wife Angelica and children, the stern businessman is gentle: “He judiciously explains what my sister and I made mistakes. Strong start, but never screams. Sharp enough, but not offended for a long time. If Eleanor returned from the disco later than promised, dad says: “I was even worse!”

Mikail Shishkhanov, four children. Once upon a time, the head of Binbank was seriously engaged in boxing. But whenever it comes to his three adorable daughters and son, strong man Shishkhanov becomes kind and caring. History and geography lessons in this close-knit family are traditionally conducted with immersion, whether it's a tour of the estate of Walter Scott in Scotland or the Whitney Museum in New York. The ideological leader of cultural tourism is mother Svetlana. At the Tatler Ball, Mikail Osmanovich urged to reduce the depth of the neckline on the dress of Nicole's eldest daughter. There is reason to think that he will take care of other dresses for especially important occasions in the life of his girls with the same touching care.

Roman Abramovich, seven children. If Roman Arkadyevich had known at the dawn of his career that he would be the father of seven children, he would not have abandoned his first business - rubber toys from the Uyut company. A man with his abilities, even on them, would have earned himself thirteenth place in the Forbes ranking. Papa Anna, Arkady, Sofya, Arina and Ilya, he was the same as Chukotka - the boss. Very good, as evidenced by the Instagram of their mother Irina, the second wife of Roman Arkadyevich. Now he rolls on his shoulders and carries Aaron, Leia and Dasha Zhukova in his arms, sometimes entrusting the crumbs to Dasha's faithful knight Derek Blasberg. But he didn’t take away the toys from the elders either: after the divorce, Irina received one and a half hundred million pounds of compensation, three houses in London, the Fyning Hill Estate in Sussex, sixth place in the ranking of the richest women in Russia and carte blanche for children’s expenses. Arkady has his own investment fund "Sigma", the young man tries himself in vegetable growing in the Belgorod region. Sophia is studying international business at Royal Holloway College in London, closed Instagram from trolls, lost weight to model size and with her horses Won Ton Ton and Rainbow jumps for Russia at international show jumping competitions in London, Monte Carlo, Paris. The Pope watches from the VIP box and occasionally comes into the stall to give his blessing. Sophia has not only a sporting interest in show jumping - she serves as an ambassador for the JustWorld charitable equestrian association, which helps children in Cambodia, Guatemala and Honduras. The older Anna, who is known to all London bartenders, is now studying at Columbia University. She spent the last winter holidays with her father, Dasha and their babies in St. Barth, although usually Irina takes the children with her to One&Only Reethi Rah in the Maldives, where the housekeeper keeps a sign with the inscription Dom semyi Abramovich for this occasion. In summer, two halves of a large family meet more often - all the Abramovichs love Saint-Tropez.

Mikhail Fridman, four children. The head of the Alfa Group consortium is a reasonable person and is in no hurry to officially join the Giving Pledge movement (its members promise to bequeath at least half of their fortunes to charitable foundations). But he is in no hurry to share the $13.3 billion he earned with his mind between the heirs. It's not just about good health. Mikhail Maratovich is afraid to ruin the lives of children, to turn them into an object of interest for various crooks. He also does not see the successors of the work of his children. Perhaps Mr. Fridman is just an old-fashioned sexist, because Olga Fridman's daughters Laura and Katya are great smart people, lovers of poetry. Laura has a diploma from Yale University, Katya studies there. And the caring father generally wants to protect the children of Oksana Ozhelskaya from adulthood as long as possible and does not build any plans for them.

Boris Rotenberg, five children. In a memorable August interview with Tatler, Boris Rotenberg's wife, dashing show jumper Karina, said that her husband had too big a heart and some selfishly use it beyond measure. But there is never too much, and for five children there is always a place in the heart of the co-owner of SMP Bank and vice-president of the Russian Judo Federation. Sofia's daughter, when she sings, Boris Romanovich accompanies on the guitar. Daniil takes on football, hockey and adult auto racing. With Leona ready to drive children's cars. “Dad is thrilled by her, and she, like a wise little woman, knows this,” Karina laughs. “You should have seen how they walk by the hand and dance slow dances.” The eldest sons from their first marriage - sports functionary Roman and defender of FC Lokomotiv Boris - already have their own children, and they play with their younger sisters and brother, using their own parental experience. Roma teaches them to roller-skate, Borya teaches them to take penalties. If there were all-Russian family "Merry Starts", the Rotenbergs would definitely win.

Ziyad Manasir, five children. The founder of the Stroygazconsulting holding himself grew up in a large family - he has eleven brothers and sisters. The father, who is busy with work, rarely sees his five, and therefore spoils him very much. “In our family, Ziyad is kind,” says wife Victoria, the owner of Vikiland family clubs, where her own children and half of secular Muscovites spend their leisure time. - And I'm like a Cerberus, I stand guard over order. Usually they ask me for permission, but they expect support from my dad.” Dad, of course, supports, but you should not abuse his trust and kindness: “If a child wants to get something, he must argue his desire. If you messed up, you must be able to admit a mistake, then you can expect a speedy pardon. In extreme cases, the Pope punishes, but everyone knows that this storm should just be weathered.” To understand how good father Ziyad is, just look at Ask his eldest daughter Helen: “I'm not perfect, but my dad, God knows, is a man from whom all men should take an example. I know many families who have a "beautiful picture". You look at them and rejoice, and then you find out that the father of the family has several mistresses, and the children spend all their time with nannies. No one can ever say that about our family.”

Alexander Japaridze, five children. When the twins were fourteen, Alexander Yulievich brought them a sign from New York "Teenagers, if it seems to you that your parents are fools, get out of the house, find a job and pay for yourself." This was the only offer not of the godfather, the native father of the Russian drilling business, which the students of the Zhukovka gymnasium could refuse. At the first call, even those who have long fallen out of the Georgian nest in the same Zhukovka flock to the head of the clan. And a London lawyer, investor and bon vivant Georgy, the son from his first marriage with Anna Gorskaya, associate professor of philosophy at MIREA. And Asya, the daughter from her second marriage (with the director of the Moscow festival of Latin American dances Salsa & Kizomba, the punchy blonde Elena). Asya, a fresh graduate of the Faculty of Art History at the University of New York, has just moved to London to practice at Sotheby's. It's not even the power of persuasion of Forbes number fifty-nine, which he has like his drilling rigs, but the talent of an entertainer, inexhaustible, like the Samotlor field. Sometimes he takes his family to fish for halibut in Alaska, sometimes he inspects wineries in the Napa Valley. That will come up with selling paintings, books, backgammon, cloaks from the family collection at the New Year's table in order to replenish the family charitable fund. That will arrange the Olympic Games in his chateau near Saint-Tropez. Even Nana's wedding with the advertiser Anton Demakov, Alexander Yulievich turned into his own holiday. Guests still remember how three years ago in the Chateau de Robernier in Provence they waited for the appearance of the pope almost longer than the kiss of the newlyweds. The magician arrived, of course, by helicopter.

Sergey Ryabtsov, four children. Although the managing director of the Sputnik group says that “education is much more difficult than managing people,” we think he is disingenuous. A large family obediently, in full force, goes to Cosmoscow, and to the marathon in Meshchersky Park. Eyewitnesses report that in the Ryabtsov family, the “bad cop” is by no means dad, but mom. The maximum freedom that four daughters allow themselves in the presence of Anastasia is a short skirmish for a place on her Instagram. "The Incredibles" - this is what subscribers call the Ryabtsovs, not without envy watching the sports victories of girls and their parents. While the older ones cope with the Ironman or blow up the virgin soil of the Three Valleys, the younger ones run, swim and ski. It was the Ryabtsovs who received a state order - it would not hurt to fill the country's Olympic reserve with future champions.

Grigory Berezkin, four children. In the family of the unfortunate owner of Forbes magazine, the electric power industry Grigory Berezkin ($0.7 billion) actively uses everything that moves, except for electric cars. The eldest daughter Anna, a graduate of the Faculty of Economics of Moscow State University and the business school of the University of St Andrews in Scotland, manages her father's property - the Metro newspaper. Tatler debutantes Sofia and Arina prefer surfers and pretty surfers. The head of the family is on the board of directors of Russian Railways, but the Berezkins prefer to ride with style, in vintage cars. The last L.U.C Chopard rally with a spectacular turn of the head of the family in a 1914 Mercedes Phaeton is unforgettable! And only the youngest son Matvey is still carefree and not burdened with transport. As in many families where mom provides the rear, and dad is very busy, sport is a family bond - in childhood, trips to Mauritius twice a year for the Berezkin girls were mandatory.

Sergey Sarkisov, five children. There are legends about Sarkisov's father. They tell how in Tbilisi, pretending to be an important Moscow professor, he made his way to the maternity hospital, to the ward to his wife Rusudan and his first child. And there a hail of questions fell upon him from a dozen and a half women in labor. The future founder of the RESO insurance empire advised them almost without hesitation. And they also say that, having paid twenty-five rubles to a soldier driver, he rode an armored personnel carrier from the airport (in September 1991, it was, to put it mildly, restless in Tbilisi) - again to the maternity hospital, to his daughter Iya. Already a billionaire, having almost exchanged half a century, Sergey Eduardovich again became a father - Rusudan gave birth to his twins Sasha and Misha. And then the capitalist Sarkisov, who never had enough time for his family, decided to become a full-time father Sarkisov. He practically retired (jokingly handing over the reins of government to Sergey, who is terribly interested in graphs, formulas and calculations from an early age). He calmly accepted the decision of the elder Nika to leave medicine, which he studied for ten years and succeeded. And he not only supported the decision to become a film director and producer, but he himself went to the Higher Courses for Scriptwriters and Directors. Now they are making films together, and we hope that it will turn out no worse than the father and son Douglas. To the question "How do you like your father?" all the children of Sarkisov - from eight to thirty years old - answer in unison: “They didn’t meet better!”

Andrey Skoch, nine children. Monegasques are accustomed to the noisy fireworks, which almost every year are arranged by billionaire Andrei Skoch in honor of his beautiful wife Elena Likhach. Defending in the State Duma of the new convocation (in the Starooskolsky district Belgorod region the fellow countryman was supported by an unthinkable 73% of voters) the good old Christian values ​​​​the deputy is Christianly generous to his offspring. Not only his own children do not deny themselves anything, but also Daria Popkova, Elena's daughter from her first marriage. The MGIMO student brags on Instagram about a brand new Porsche that met her at Vnukovo after a tiring voyage from Portofino to Capri, and a party at Kalina Bar - at midnight the birthday girl fluttered out of a cake that was two heads taller than her. Dad doesn’t have much time for fun, but he tries not to miss the children’s birthdays, and on Varvara’s fourteenth birthday he sang “Blue Wagon” with her guitar. Skoch also has children from his first marriage - four twins! - but from the toothy light, he carefully hides them.

Vladimir Potanin, five children. The father from Vladimir Olegovich turned out to be about the same as her husband. And what kind of husband he is, readers of Instagram and court chronicles know, and better than Potanin would like. Once upon a time, the family of the future owner of Interros, despite the fashionable excesses of the 2000s, was a model of a healthy lifestyle: skiing in Courchevel in winter, jet skis in summer, movies on Sundays all year round. Photos of those times - as if from posters about spiritual bonds. In 2010, Anastasia, as the eldest, enthusiastically commented on her father's decision to write off all the billions to charity to the press. The rest of the kids nodded in agreement. Anastasia now supports her father in everything, who does not communicate with either Ivan or Vasily - they sided with their mother in a divorce conflict. But, they say, Potanin enthusiastically plays the role of a strict but fair dad for Varvara, the daughter of his former employee Catherine. Probably, it will be so until the baby learns to defend his own opinion, which does not coincide with the position of the priest.

Roman Avdeev, twenty-three children. The children of the seventy-third Forbes are only one less than the years of its oldest brainchild, the Moscow Credit Bank. Nineteen are adopted, including two from his wives' first marriages. By the time of the wedding with the current, third wife, English teacher Elena, Roman had already become a dad twelve times. The youngest - Peter, Anna and Ruslan - are now four. Avdeev works as a receiver without distribution because he is tired of sponsoring orphanages, he considers their system vicious. Eye color and pedigree are not important for Roman Ivanovich, the only criterion is age. Ideally - from one to four months: "To start caring right away." Education, according to Odintsovo Makarenko, is a pedagogical poem. They get used to discipline and self-service from the cradle - four English tutors for a long time wondered why children should be put on the potty so early. In total, a dozen educators, nannies, cooks help the Avdeevs with the housework. The compulsory program for each child includes English, swimming in the home pool and music. School of arts, gymnastics and vocals - according to ability. Only dad has an iPad. Children over four years old walk in the yard on their own, without nannies. The Avdiivka Republic SHKID occupies three cottages, each ward has his own room, so Elena's evening jog is an excellent substitute for a detour: she kisses everyone before going to bed. A dad who gets up at five in the morning may already be asleep at this time. In general, he is not inclined to calf tenderness: "The child does not need to devote much time, only when it is required." There are no other traditions in the family, except that on their own birthdays, birthdays give gifts to other children. In summer, the whole camp goes into the Lipetsk sky: in the village of Klyuchi, Lebedyansky district, Avdeev has a dacha and cows.

Alexey Mordashov, six children.“I don’t think I’m a good dad,” the billionaire told Vedomosti in 2008. He "tryes to see the kids at least once a week, but it doesn't always work out." We understand that it is difficult, Alexei Alexandrovich has six children from three women. And you also have to sit in all the chairs of all boards of directors - Mordashov owns the largest stake in Severstal, participates in the fate of the Nord Gold gold mining company, the Power Machines machine-building company, the TUI tour operator, the National Media Group holding, the Bank of Russia and the mobile operator Tele2. So instead of telling children bedtime stories, you have to fly to the St. Petersburg Economic Forum. True, he took his daughters with him to the celebration of Metallurgist's Day in his native Cherepovets. Last year, Mordashov personally presented the crown to Miss Severstal, and his own Miss Marina, at that time, took care of the future of three common children: she opened a school for them and their neighbors in New Riga and kindergarten wunderpark.

Andrei Kirilenko, four children. Those who have been in New York's apartment near the Brooklyn Bridge, a basketball player from the Brooklyn Nets, respectively, still cannot decide what struck them more. A card table where the eldest sons fight on equal terms with mom and dad in poker? Or a family way of life based on the principle “parents are best friends”? That's just Maria Lopatova, the golden pen of Tatler, does not play with her children on principle - she threw all pedagogy into the basket of her husband, now president Russian Federation basketball. Andrei and Masha prescribed developing games, mathematical problems and sports for the elders: basketball for Fedor, hockey and tennis for Stepan, tennis, dancing, ballet, gymnastics and figure skating for the receptionist Sasha. For those who reach the final without a single foul, at the end of the day, Andrey gives a little play with the PlayStation. For a good study in the Kirilenko family, prize money is also provided - in addition to the salary of three hundred rubles a day due to children from the first class. But if the arbiter detects at least one violation of the rules, the child loses a week's earnings. So, up to the “ten thousand dollars a day” bar, as Andrei used to have in his fat years, the younger Kirilenko still has to grow and grow.

Alexander Lebedev, four children. The elder Eugene, a secular character of international scale, has long escaped from his father's embrace, but sometimes returns to babysit his brothers and sister. The younger Lebedevs are just at that magical age when it is worth a couple of times to clap your eyelashes - and you can twist ropes out of a formidable millionaire dad. And the eyes of all three are the colors of the waves on Lazurka, like those of their mother Lena Perminova. And the eyelashes are long, so it is absolutely impossible to refuse. “At least stop going to work,” the touched father wrote under the photo of Arina’s doll-daughter. He spares no resources for children's birthdays and fearlessly takes his family on safari to Botswana and fishing in Corsica. Unless in Indian Varanasi, where the dead are burned right on the street, they take only the elder.

Musa Bazhaev, four children. The formidable president of the Alliance group even taught Nikolai Baskov to sing in the language of Imam Shamil, but he can’t unlearn how to speak his children. To open Pandora's box, just ask Elina, a master's student at MGIMO, on Ask.fm. And find out that dad, who is affectionately called “dada” in the Chechen family, forbids her from licking her lips, so you have to do it secretly. You can’t touch your hair, shake your legs, swallow with a sound, put your elbows on the table - Elina is ready to write a book about everything that makes dad furious. Yes, his character is not Nordic. A guard is assigned to each of the children - not a step without him, even in the sea. Not so long ago, both daughters escaped from the exemplary sakli. The eldest Maryam, also a MGIMO graduate student, married Magomed, the son of banker Usman Yerikhanov, in April. And the youngest in September said “yes” to the son of businessman Alikhan Mamakaev, Bekhan.

Vasily Tsereteli, four children. Vasily grew up on his grandfather's knees in his Tbilisi workshop, playing among the bronze castings of Friendship Forever, which had not yet pierced the sky over Tishinka, and models of the frieze of the Izmailovo Hotel, which had not yet become a home for Olympians. The new growth of the monumental dynasty is sculpting from clay at the Garage, drawing a red square with chalk on the walls of my father's MMOMA. They have art in the French Lyceum named after Alexandre Dumas, but this is not enough - on Saturdays, children hone their watercolor technique at the Institute of Russian Realistic Art and walk with terriers and pugs in the Muzeon. At home, if Vasily's wife has strength left (Kira Sakarello is not only a mother-heroine and companion secular life her husband, but also the head of the MMOMA development department), she turns on punk rock and starts dancing with the young Tsereteli. Kira used to be in the Spanish rhythmic gymnastics team, the little Empire does ballet, and dad watches the afternoon rest of his nymphs from the side. By the way, from the point of view of the museum worker Vasily, cultivating a sense of beauty is important, but not the most important thing. Since he met his Kira in English classes, he appreciates knowledge of languages ​​more - his children will know at least four.

Charles Thompson, six children. The guests of the Tatler Ball know that after the debutantes dance the polonaise and waltz, the Thompson girls will flutter out onto the parquet floor of the Hall of Columns, and Papa Charles will shoot them with Canon with a slight smile. At social events, fabric designer Olga Thompson and her husband, a photographer, bring almost the entire group of children in identical outfits. However, many girls can dress well, but not all of them behave like silk. And with regard to the Thompsons, the world is unanimous: "Exemplary-demonstrative family." Their elders know the word "no" very well. When the parents realized that the iPhone was distracting Anastasia from the busy training and dance schedule at the Moscow Academy of Choreography, they asked the question: “Do you want to be a great ballerina or, like everyone else, a girl with an iPhone?” She replied: "A great ballerina." The iPhone was forgotten. Charles is a creative person, but he plunges into a routine with great pleasure: he leads school and circles himself and constantly comes up with games to keep the family busy. Anastasia is already dancing in Don Quixote on the stage of the Bolshoi - the quivering father meets his daughter at the exit. Important evenings in the Big Thompsons do not miss, and on Sundays in fur coats, scarves and almost felt boots they go for a walk around the center and drop in at Bosco Cafe for tea.

Leonid Maschitsky, four children. The managing partner of the Vi Holding group of companies (which was founded by his father Vitaly Maschitsky) is the father of four charming tomboys. “Leo is strict when necessary,” says wife Clarissa. But I don't think he likes it very much. He works so hard that when he comes home he wants to have fun with the kids instead of lecturing.” On weekends, he plays with his sons at the PlayStation, takes the three elders to lunch (“no girls!”), To the bathhouse and to karting, where it is difficult to compete with him - Maschitsky is a pro in racing. But on weekdays, children have a routine. “We have a sign at home,” Clarissa told us, “that says who behaved this month. The one who cleans the room, does the dishes, says "hello", "thank you" and "please" gets a star at the end of the day. If he collects all the stars in a week, he will receive pocket money for the next one. Luka - five hundred rubles, Raphael - three hundred, Niko - two hundred. And if they study diligently, then we encourage them additionally.”

Maxim Kashirin, four children. The owner of the wine trading company Simple sets himself difficult tasks. As in business (it is necessary to ask suppliers in Rioja how the work is going on “to change the formation of garnacha bushes”), and in family life. He will have four sons to raise real men. “My main principle is honesty,” Maxim explains his method. “If you naughty, but confessed, the punishment will be mild.” Financial questions in the family they decide democratically: “Children should not have a lot of money, they will not be able to manage it. I teach to spend on the right things, to save, to save. Even limit yourself a little to buy what you want on your own. Children from the first two marriages have already grown up - Denis helps his father in Simple, Oleg studies at Queen Mary University of London. The younger ones - from the third marriage with the architect Alina - are also not allowed to mess around: “Eric at the age of four goes to an English-speaking Montessori school, plays hockey and music. Children are not allowed to wander around doing nothing. Dad goes to his work, the child goes to his own - in circles and sections. Three or four times a year the whole family gathers at home on Mosfilmovskaya. “When I was little, we used to get together with my grandparents. Boys need to understand that they are part of a big family.”

Mikhail Turetsky, five children.“A man must be strict with his sons, but with daughters diplomacy and paternal care are required,” Mikhail Borisovich is sure. So far, he has been able to verify only the second part of this maxim. During his marriage to Liana, the daughter of his former American producer, he gave birth to two girls - Emmanuelle and Beate. The mother of the eldest Natalya, who works as a lawyer in the Turetsky Choir, died in a car accident when the child was only five years old. Sarina is Liana's daughter, but the conductor takes care of her like his own. There is also Isabelle, but in that direction, the parental muses are silent, but the guns in relations with her mother Tatyana Borodovskaya still do not agree. Turetsky's home choir sings (Emmanuelle has already performed in the Kremlin and on Poklonnaya Hill), skiing and skating, looking at the inhabitants of the Moskvarium, climbing rope walls in parks. From the age of five, the function of a personal assistant to a person-holiday in the family has been performed by Tatler's debutante Sarina, now a student of the MZH at MGIMO - her father believes that she is "the most accommodating." When the season of Christmas trees and corporate parties begins at the breadwinner, the wife and children listen to the chimes with him. Even if for this you need to fly to Miami, Venice or the Alps. One problem - the choirmaster has recently fallen ill with tourism with a backpack, a tent and a kayak and wants to put this burden on the shoulders of his daughters.

Konstantin Totibadze, six children. Thirteen people - artist Konstantin Totibadze, Olga and their six children, his brother artist Georgy with Irina and three children - once lived together in a three-room apartment. And somehow they got along, educating each other in chorus and preparing for the whole crowd. They say it was fun. This vast Moscow-Georgian family lives happily today: with endless Georgian holidays in the studio of the brothers at Strelka, with new clips by Musya Konstantinovna, exhibitions by Anton Konstantinovich and hilarious stories that happen to all these creative children. On September 8, Konstantin had his forty-seventh birthday, and Tatler's debutante Musya wrote an ode on Facebook. She began like this: “My dad was born today. My dad - great person, like mom, but now not about mom, - but finished: - Dad is light. Dad is the mind. Dad is a conscience. Dad is wisdom. Dad is faith, hope and love.” Musya also said that “dad is a man of the finest sense of humor”, that “children call dad a beaver”, that “when dad plays the piano, he closes his eyes” and that “dad very rarely scolds, but when he scolds, it would be better not to scold ". In principle, this is all you need to know about Konstantin Totibadze.

Mikhail Efremov, six children.“You know, I would have fooled you,” - about ten years ago, this was the catchphrase of the people's artist when meeting the girls of Mayak. In case of misunderstanding, Mikhail Olegovich calmly explained: “Come on, will you give birth to my son? Let's call Boris, for example. Then Efremov became calmer, and the need for his son Boris was satisfied by his fifth wife, sound engineer Sofya Kruglikova, who also gave him Vera and Nadezhda and is raising Anna-Maria, who was born in her husband's fourth marriage to actress Ksenia Kachalina. Mikhail himself, in the role of a father with many children, does not overact: “I can teach bad things. But I have rather a policy of non-intervention.” He recommends books to his elders - Nikita (son of the Sovremennik literary editor Asya Vorobyova) and Nikolai (son of actress Evgenia Dobrovolskaya) - and listens to rock ballads in Russian, English and Latin authored by Anna-Maria with maximum understanding. But in the world he does not brag about this, on the contrary, he assures that he constantly roams on the set and tours - it is necessary, whatever one may say, to provide for those who depend on you.

Vladimir Solovyov, eight children.“Here the child was just born, you take him in your arms and understand that this is already a person. Everything is already included in it. You can only polish something." Vladimir Rudolfovich knows what he is saying: during the birth of his current, third wife, clinical psychologist Elga Sepp, he was present five times. Having been discharged from the hospital, the host of Sunday Evening on the Rossiya channel immediately turns into a Sunday dad. From dawn to dusk, he is torn between solo performances on television, radio and at the Gorky Moscow Art Theater. And on vacation he writes books, which he already has twice as many as children. On the other hand, houses were built in Peredelkino and on the Pasternak field in Bakovka, and a sixteen-room villa with a boathouse on Como was equipped for the summer. For each birthday of each child, the wife receives an ornament from her husband. Children from the first two marriages polished over the years in the image and likeness of their father. Alexander graduated from the London University of the Arts and the Drama Center in St. Martins, stamps Internet advertising for Beeline and Sberbank, documentaries for the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (including "Mussolini. Sunset" with voice and script by Vladimir Solovyov) and the official film of the Sochi Olympics "Rings of the World". Polina, from behind the desk of the Institute of Television and GITIS, moved to the chair of the host of Moscow 24. Pike graduate Ekaterina directs the Dark Cabaret festival in Moscow. Only Daniel looks the other way. Secular Moscow still can not stop the heartbeat after the show new form Lomonosov School at the Four Seasons Hotel. A blue-eyed elf with honey-coloured shoulder-length hair defiled down the catwalk - thanks to the Estonian-German blood of his mother for his appearance. Such a boy would make a chic Andrei Pejic, but the child wants to be Kurt Cobain - on VKontakte he hugs the guitar, and only with it.

Our correspondent Ksenia Ponomarenko, who studies business at Columbia Business School, as " extracurricular activities» communicates with influential figures in the Russian business industry. The new interlocutor of Xenia was the founder of Simple Maxim Kashirin

Maksim Kashirin is an experienced businessman and a man who instilled in Russia a taste for good wines. Mr. Kashirin started doing business back in perestroika times, successfully overcame the crisis of 1998 and 2008, became vice president of the influential public organization of small and medium-sized businesses OPORA Russia, head of the Trade Committee and the Commission for the Alcohol and Wine Industry, and at the same time the owner of prestigious titles - Commander of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic, Commander of the Order of Merit of the French Republic and Ambassador of the White Truffle.

You are not new to the business. How do you assess what has been happening in the country over the past few months?
Now we are playing the following game: we plan our expenses, but we don’t know how much the dollar will cost tomorrow, therefore, we don’t know how much the product will cost and which companies will remain on the market. The easiest way is to cut costs, the hardest thing is to build a new commercial policy and look into the future. Many questions, the answers to which could shed light on how business should behave now in Russia, remain open: what will happen to oil prices, how the situation in Ukraine will develop, how the government and the Central Bank will react to all these processes. In any case, I look at the situation calmly, every crisis has its own opportunities. There is a chance to realize their advantages, to change the existing stereotypical commercial and other approaches.

In 1998, we had no shipments at all. Everything collapsed instantly. The crisis happened in August, and only in October we restored sales. In the spring, improvements gradually began, and in the fall of 1999, sales went into full swing. The current crisis is very different - I think it will take 3 to 6 months to clearly see the market and the new economy.

Do you have a travel business in your company? Do you think it will be in demand in the coming years or should we forget about gastro tourism?
Everything is not as dramatic as, for example, in 1998, when "I fell asleep - it was 6 rubles, I woke up - it was 21 rubles." Now the situation is different: from 33 rubles we gradually came to 60-65 rubles, a sharp jump was only at the very end. Today, salaries in dollar terms have lost much less than then. But, on the other hand, the prices were completely different, there were no consumer loans, there was no such horror that exists now.

The summary is as follows: there is no need to be afraid, everything will return. I assume that those countries that want to receive our tourists will lower prices or develop Special offers. Europe has already realized that there are no more Russians with thick wallets. And thank God! Because of us, everything has become very expensive everywhere. So the crisis is not bad. It forces you to rethink your values. The only thing I fear is that Russia will separate from the world. But I hope it doesn't come to that.

Your products have already risen in price by 25%, is that right?
Not certainly in that way. From April 1 to December 1, 2014 we did not change prices. Then we planned an adjustment in 2 stages: we partially managed to change prices on December 1, 2014, and the second stage was scheduled for December 15 (Monday). On Friday, an internal recalculation was made in advance at the rate of approximately 65 rubles per euro (and we were at the level of 52 rubles). On Monday we make this course working and - balloons! There was a sharp collapse of the ruble. We had to suspend deliveries in order to look around for 2-3 days and understand how the situation will develop further. I believe that it is better not to sell goods that are worth anything at all than to give them away for free or at unreasonably high prices. If this product is liquid, as in our case, and it does not have an expiration date, it is better to wait. We can always sell at a loss.

Today we work according to the internal rate, which we fix on our website - in the interests of clients, it is deliberately lower than the rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. And if the ruble goes up, then we will reduce prices.

“Europe has already realized that there are no more Russians with thick wallets. And thank God! Because of us, everything has become very expensive everywhere.”

With this development, what category of wine will be popular?
Cheap and very expensive. People with high level income, for which expensive and good wines are part of the diet, will buy them even in a crisis. And the middle segment will be missing. The target audience This category will either go down or stop buying wine altogether.

Let's go back to your past. Tell us about how you were able to create such a successful and beautiful business despite all the difficulties.
At the end of 1990, I realized that I had to give up graduate school, because my scholarship of 130 rubles was enough for a maximum of a couple of days. In theory, it was necessary to leave, but then who needed me in the West? It is today that they are ready to receive our specialists there - we have proved that we can and are able to. As a result, I began to do everything in a row - there was no initial capital, of course. What can a person who has no money do? Resell only.

If we talk about the wine business, it was not created from scratch. I started out trading computers, faxes and copiers. When there was not enough money, he “bombed” by car. At 22, I already had a child, I had to feed my family. That is, all this Soviet and post-Soviet activity went through me. Therefore, I know the value of every penny.

But at some point I wanted to build a truly systematic business. If I had a license, the Central Bank still allowed to sell goods in conventional units, and I decided to open a currency store. I came to one bank with a business plan, which was made simply - on 3 pieces of paper, I received money. This is how a grocery supermarket appeared on Leningradka. At some point, I realized that alcohol sold very well - it accounted for about 40 percent of all revenue. And by coincidence, at the same time, I met Anatoly Korneev through one of my buyers, who visited me every day. Prior to that, Anatoly worked in a company that supplied wines to the USSR for Vneshposyltorg, Beryozka stores and for serving foreigners. We met, talked and started working together. Since this all started.

I got involved in wine for three reasons. Firstly, this is a rather aesthetic business, which I always really liked. Secondly, I understood that in the country no one but me would be dealing with wine in the near future - this is not a very fast-turning market and not super profitable, moreover, it requires a fairly deep knowledge of history, culture and languages. Thirdly, I knew that winemakers do not have their own distribution structures anywhere in the world, in all markets wines are sold through local players. And then it was already clear that along with Russia, which at that time was at the very bottom of its economic state, the quality of life of the population would also develop: new restaurants, new hotels would appear, and people would have the opportunity to travel more. So we were in an advantageous position.

In the crisis of 1998, my supermarket died. I repurposed it as a baby food store, but it was uninteresting and unprofitable. But the wine business began to expand - in 2000, I began to understand that it was necessary to turn off everything unnecessary and concentrate on wine.

“I understood that in the country no one except me would deal with wine in the near future - this is not a very fast-turning market and not super profitable ...”

You are involved in charity work and organized a beautiful project called "White Truffle". Can you tell me about it?
In 2006, on the recommendation of the leading wine-growing families of Piedmont, the association of the commune of Grinzane Cavour (Italian: Grinzane Cavour) awarded me the title of "Ambassador of the White Truffle" for the promotion of the Piedmontese enogastronomic culture. This award is usually given only to the world's best chefs, often awarded Michelin stars, who promote Piedmont's eno-gastronomic culture to the world. I was touched and took it as an advance. And in order to justify the trust, he came up with a charity story called "White Truffle". For several years in a row, we have been organizing a paid enogastronomic dinner with the best Italian wines, excellent dishes prepared by the best chefs in Moscow. Wines, truffles, gourmet dishes - all this is free, since the main task of the project is to raise funds for the treatment of seriously ill children from different regions of Russia. To become a dinner guest, you need to buy a ticket - this way our friends, clients and partners can take part in a common important cause and send money to charity.

At first we worked with various funds, then we settled on Life Line. And over 8 years, they collected more than 20 million rubles and helped more than 80 children from different regions of Russia. I am very glad that the White Truffle Charity Dinner has become quite a significant event in the life of Moscow. Many are waiting for it and book tickets in advance.

Finally, I want to ask you to give a recommendation to everyone who wants to start a business related to winemaking in Russia.
It is difficult for us to build a wine-making business from scratch with private investments - we need state support. Plus, it's not a fast business. Even if you have vineyards at your disposal, most likely they were all planted in Soviet times and they all need to be uprooted or replanted, because then soil and geological factors were not taken into account. If now everything is done according to the rules, then the first turnover will happen only in 7-8 years. Can you imagine how much money and enthusiasm you will need? This is an incredible investment. Why are so many farms being born in the West? Because in the West, many owners gave their possessions to the management of famous wine houses. And when children were born in their families, they were given the appropriate education. Thus, now the generation of forty-year-olds understands wine better than many specialists and can manage their own economy without the intervention of large houses. In addition, in Europe, the state allocates money to winemakers.

If we talk about the import of wine to Russia, then companies that are ready for large investments and have an appropriate team of specialists can enter this market. When we all started, there was no such competition, there were completely different economic conditions, everything was simpler.

Do you believe in Crimean wine?
I believe. It's unique natural area with great prospects. But the state in which most of the vineyards in the Crimea are now does not correspond to the potential of these terroirs. It will take years to restore and put everything in order - this is a huge national project. The Crimean region is larger than the French Bordeaux, this project cannot be raised by private investments, the state should seriously and competently participate here. But who's going there now? As soon as you cross the border, you will immediately fall under sanctions, so everyone is waiting for what will happen next. I hope that in 2-3 years in Crimea something will start to seriously change in this area, and we will be able to see the first real results in 10-15 years.

In 2017, the imported alcohol market in Russia, which was hit hard by the crisis due to exchange rate fluctuations, showed growth in all major categories for the first time in several years. In an interview with Kommersant, the president of Simple Maxim Kashirin explained the reason for the recovery in the consumption of foreign drinks, and also spoke about why it became easier for the company to work with chains and about what prevents it from starting winemaking in Russia.


- Are you satisfied with the results of 2017?

Yes, we see growth in almost all categories. Of course, maybe not as stormy as we would like, but we understand that the market is coming back. If back in 2016, according to my observations, not all companies started up the same way, then in 2017 everyone began to add, the competitive struggle again became more pronounced. At the same time, I cannot say that demand has become much more active. We have seen that our corporate consumers before the New Year were still conservative in their approach to spending. Therefore, even the growth that we saw in sales last year is not easy.

But how do you explain it anyway?

Firstly, by the fact that people are returning to a more natural consumption format for them. And secondly, the strengthening of the ruble. In 2015, during a period of strong devaluation, there was a serious clampdown on consumption, when people did not understand how to plan their budgets in order to provide a safety cushion for their families. In 2016, the situation more or less returned to normal, and in 2017, we even lowered prices for the premium part of our portfolio since April, because the exchange rate returned to more attractive values.

- How much?

On average, the portfolio went up by 10-12%, if not more. For us, one of the challenges was to grow in 2017 in terms of money, despite the decline in prices. To do this, it was necessary to sell more goods. This physically added to our work, as it was necessary to expand the client base. We have coped with this task. Although sales went in waves: for some month everything was fine, and then once - and a decline. The summer was still cold, it was pouring like a bucket. For example, we expected more from sales through restaurants during this period, but they sank a little. Then there was the period of October-November, when, for some reason incomprehensible to us, we saw that sales were really tight. We had planned sales figures for these months, and we had to fight for them, but December worked out clearly according to plan.

- Have you lowered prices for the first time since the beginning of the crisis?

No, and before that there were reductions. Because we followed the course, and the course changed so dynamically. When we told the client: our prices are at the rate of 90 rubles / €, he froze in surprise. We said: what to do? Then we had prices of 80 rubles / €. We had to make three or four price corrections in 2015. It was terrible, because some clients accept the price quickly, for example, in the HoReCa segment. What about retail? Wait two months, and then he may not want to accept these new prices at all. But we can't. Remember, there was a conflict in December 2014, when we stopped deliveries to the network? Not from harm, but I simply did not even know at what rate to sell. The rate grew like crazy, and it was just necessary to take a break, wait for it to stabilize.

When you raise prices, retailers are reluctant to accept them, and when, on the contrary, chains are ready to lower prices after you?

The retailer is, of course, happy to broadcast the downgrade to the shelf if it is significant. But technologically, the price change process is still long.

- But you control the process of price reduction in retail?

The speed of the process is not controlled by us. If the discount is not very large on our part, then the retailer does not always want to lower the price on the shelf. When there is a big decline, the retailer always goes down too. Those changes in the law on trade, which everyone criticized, greatly changed the form of our dialogue with the networks. The dialogue finally began to be based on the principle of a conversation between two merchants. We trade and they trade. And before it was: we trade, and they sell the shelf. The retrobonus paid, did something else - they are always in the black, and you are confused. Now the situation has changed: they began to look much more at what turns out and how, and in some cases they began to understand that they could earn much more. What is important is not what percentage margin you have, but how this product is sold. If it just stands on the shelf without movement, then no matter what the margin, there is no income. This is what the networks have finally begun to think about more and more. We began to look together how to make the price good for the consumer. Chains that follow this approach start to have a more efficient turnover, they really stimulate sales and earn more. We have had a very constructive dialogue with a number of federal networks. And in 2006 or 2007 we were enemies. Instead of cooperating and looking for normal interaction, all these rebates led to such corruption in the purchasing system that retailers began to build a wall between us. We tell them: this is wrong, we have no desire to corrupt, we have a desire to sell more and earn more. As soon as the law changed, all corruption was gone. Today, networks abroad are building very close relationships with manufacturers and distributors, opening all their cards to them, saying: we need such and such goods, or discussing how we can get this product at such a price. This is normal work, because, in essence, we all want the end consumer to be satisfied. In Russia, for example, to take a buyer and take him to a winemaker for production was considered corruption. But it's not right. Without this, your buyer does not understand what he is buying: he has never been to this production - some product is made for him, and he does not even know that this production is of a very low level. Walmart, for example, sends delegations to its partners to make sure that its suppliers are worthy, high-tech companies that adhere to the highest standards of hygiene and the like. Because Walmart wants to work with the best. And how do you see it from the office? And so when we say: let's take it out - to us: no, no, no, according to the code of our network, I can't go anywhere. Well, what is it?!

One of the consequences of the crisis was that suppliers and chains were carried away by price promotions. Don't you think it's dangerous to put the consumer on them?

You are right, this situation exists. Naturally, any network without a promotion is not very happy, because it needs the consumer to see that the network cares about him, creates excellent conditions for him: yellow price tag, red price tag, three bottles for the price of two, two for the price of one, etc. In all categories of goods, the network is pressing for such promos to be. We are obligated to do promotions, this is part of the contract with the network, because the network says: okay, I will enter your SKUs, but on the condition that we have such and such a number of promos. For example, this is participation in the New Year's platform, additional points of sale, end displays. If earlier many promos were wired into an increase in the rebate, now everything is translated into an additional discount. Sometimes we really work to zero or with meager profits: we give everything to the chains, because, firstly, we have to do it, and secondly, many people will buy and try our products. We try to make sure that the share of products sold in promotions is commercially effective for us, because I don’t have the same margin as a brand owner who works directly with networks. If you remember, at the end of 2014 and in 2015, global brand owners imported their goods at very low transfer prices, which ultimately allowed them to have very attractive prices on the shelves. And the customs could not punish them for it. We would be punished, because we are not brand owners, but importers.

Why would you be punished?

Because when you transport goods at the same price, and then your import price suddenly drops sharply, the customs office says: why did your price become minus 30%? So, come here, the price will not go minus 30%, you will pay as from the previous price - this is called customs value control. This is, of course, such a very simple presentation, but the essence is this. Customs is responsible for collecting the money, and as a result, they try not to let the fees drop anywhere. And it is so difficult to prove to her that you are not a camel, to explain that the supplier gives us an anti-crisis discount, we have a devaluation in the country, the goods have become twice as expensive. The supplier tells us: ok, guys, I will give you a 25% discount for one or two years. We run to customs - customs says: no, no, you are there as you like, and the import price should not change. But when it comes to the owners of the brand, who produce everything themselves and import their goods here without intermediaries, then the customs can no longer suspect them of anything and restrict them.

- Contracts cannot be shown?

You can, but it doesn't always work. For example, very cheap wines from the New World can be introduced without customs value control, but for some reason the same wines from Italy cannot be imported - additional customs duties will be charged immediately. Discrimination. We would certainly like to see this changed. We plan to draw the Ministry of Finance's attention to this problem this year, to explain that this prevents companies from agreeing on completely different principles of work, receiving special prices for a certain period, and in general this is some kind of anachronism.

- But in 2015, you told me that suppliers during the acute phase of the crisis went forward and gave discounts.

We had anti-crisis discounts, many suppliers provided them to us, but they could not give us the depth we wanted. Discounts were 10-15%, very rarely - 20%, almost all major suppliers gave. With such discounts, customs generally passed normally.

- Are these discounts still valid?

Since January 1, all imports have been going again at the prices that were before the beginning of 2015. We and foreign suppliers see the same that the market has stabilized. If there are no sharp exchange rate jumps, then these anti-crisis measures are no longer really needed. We need a real good price, with which we will work further.

It is believed that the growth in sales of imported wine was influenced by the reverse switching of the consumer from domestic products.

Because Russian winemakers raised prices a little and the balance shifted again. There was a situation when imported wine cost 800-1000 rubles. per bottle, and ours - 300–400 rubles. still. But our guys thought: why sell for 300 rubles, if you can sell for 700 rubles? I'm speaking conditionally.

That is, our winemakers overestimated themselves, believing that the demand for their products will continue if they raise prices?

It must be understood that when the demand for domestic wine grew in 2015, patriotic sentiments were very high: drink your own, eat your own. It remains - just, in my opinion, Russian winemakers are in a rather difficult position. On the one hand, I can tell them: guys, your wine is somewhat overrated. On the other hand, I understand that they do not have any special benefits. The state practically does not support them, only now they began to give subsidies for transplanting vineyards and planting new ones. Before, there was nothing at all. They have just been equated with agricultural producers. In our economic and tax system, it is quite difficult for an agricultural producer to make really inexpensive wine at a cost. I also understand their troubles: they are not that greedy, but simply do not know what to do and how to be. They also need to fight off the whole thing. I can’t say that I am familiar with the business models of certain producers and know in detail all their costs, but I understand, by analyzing and communicating with winemakers around the world, what conditions they have, what kind of state approach there is. Each country is proud of its winemaking. Proud! It's like being proud of your athletes, ballet, opera, science. There, wine is not alcohol or, excuse me, I'm not afraid of this word, booze. These are products that can be exported to different countries as national pride. These are not cucumbers with tomatoes - the attitude towards them is different. When a country is proud of its winemakers, it creates special conditions and itself determines the regions and zones in which winemaking should develop. We don't have that yet. We are now on working group in the State Duma we are discussing the law on wine and viticulture, and this is a difficult debate.

- They say that recently the team has changed a lot in Simple. What is it connected with?

Simple has historically specialized in working with HoReCa. When we went online, it happened about ten years ago, retail overtook us in terms of knowledge and technology. As an operator, we were too far from understanding retail - we started to go there, making a lot of mistakes. We did not have an appropriate assortment, we did not have an understanding of how to make a promo, how to form a promo calendar - it was a whole job. We have changed several teams in retail, and now we have a very high-level team, whose members speak the same language with retail. Over the past two years, we have updated almost the entire top team, it was a colossal job. When your turnover is already over 10 billion rubles. per year, then you and the management team must be appropriate, since the cost of a mistake is high. My partner Anatoly Korneev and I are still self-taught entrepreneurs. I didn’t have time to study business anywhere, I didn’t work in a Western company and I don’t have the skills, for example, to be a sales director with all the courses that teams take in large Western companies. But we have reached such a level a long time ago that we need a team of a completely different level, and it was very difficult to create such a team, because we had to find serious professionals who would meet our DNA, convince them to work for us and make sure that they have become a real team. All this is very difficult and slow.

- And what is the difficulty of finding people?

Many do not want to go into alcohol: they believe that the industry is not the cleanest, not the whitest, there is a lot of overregulation, a lot of difficulties for people involved in marketing, communications, a lot of things are impossible. Sometimes it seems to them not very interesting, although it is not. True, the strength of the Simple brand is already very strong, and the wine business itself is wonderful - everyone likes the company and its spirit, but not everyone is ready to work in such a specific environment. We also compete for the best professionals with other strong employers in the country.

- In 2016, you said that retail accounts for 35% of your sales. Has this proportion changed in any way since then?

It was smaller - all retail was then a little less than 30%. I think that by the end of this year we will reach 35%. In two years, we have greatly improved our work with professional wine retail, we have grown a lot in federal retail and in local networks. Our share of sales through retail is growing, as the share of mass-market goods in our assortment is growing. For example, in 2013 the share of such goods was 80% in liters and 46% in money, in 2017 - 81.5% in liters and already 51% in money. Because the consumer has made a major switch. For us, the mass market is a product that costs less than €2.5 per bottle from the manufacturer. Anything more is premium. In terms of assortment in the mass market, Simple has always had strong positions in wines from Italy, but we were seriously lagging behind in the wines of France, Spain and the New World. My task was to make Simple a powerful key player not only in the premium segment, but also in the mass market segment. First of all, we needed to bring the assortment in the mass market segment to the right amount of the right wines at the right prices and with an attractive appearance from all the wine regions we needed. We have been doing this work for five years, this is not a quick story - to find the right supplier, taste, get a stable quality, agree on a price. We want to be in the top 5 largest importers for each country. Building this portfolio is one of the conceptual challenges that I face. Now, if you look at the Italian mass market, we are number one there, and if you take other countries, then we still have to work and work.

- How are the remaining 65% of sales distributed?

Firstly, we have a very large and strong sales channel in HoReCa. Here we are probably one of the strongest players in the country among wine trading companies. We work directly, bypassing distributors, already in five cities of Russia - Moscow, St. Petersburg, Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar and Sochi. This channel gives about 25% of sales. Secondly, we also have a large sales channel for B2C customers. These are corporate clients who make purchases for some of their needs: presentations, boards of directors, corporate events, etc. We have a system, something like the VIP Wine Club, where our clients make individual orders through a manager. They buy enough. The store cannot work with them, because they need wines of a different price level, and the volume of purchases from them is already different. These customers have outgrown the store format long ago. This channel gives us another 20-25% of sales in monetary terms. The rest is accounted for by distributors and our own wine retail, which is also growing rapidly.

Customs statistics show that retailers are increasing direct alcohol imports. So do, for example, "Magnet", "Azbuka Vkusa". Are you worried that this will negatively affect your sales?

We are not afraid, but we must take this into account. I foresaw this development back in 2009. From the very beginning of the crisis, it was clear that the first thing the chains would do in this changed situation would be to cut the bones, and would try to go directly to manufacturers in many classes of goods. It was clear to me that they would sharply increase their imports, reach a certain peak, and then there would be some decline. When a consumer comes to a store, wanting to buy a product in a category with an incomprehensible set of brands, looking at the shelf, he thinks whether he has seen it before or not. If he liked the product, he will try to find it again. And having come to one or another network and not finding it, he gets the feeling that this is some kind of special product if it is sold in only one place. In the end, the networks will understand that it is impossible to fill everything with only their product - the consumer will still want confirmation of his choice in the form of a wide representation of the product in retail. Another reason why I don’t see a big threat for us from retail as an importer of wine is that they will mainly work only in the mass demand segment, and besides, they are unlikely to be able to partner with manufacturers with global brands. level. I doubt that such suppliers, who look at the Russian market strategically, will want to be exclusive in retail with one network, even if it is a very large network. They want to be widely represented in the market.

- In 2016, you launched your first product - Onegin vodka. Satisfied with its sales?

We are always dissatisfied with sales. (Laughs.) On the one hand, I am satisfied, because we even exceeded the preliminary targets that we set for ourselves, but on the other hand, you understand, it is very difficult to plan the first year from scratch, because this is not the product and not the market that I know . Onegin got into tough competition, went into the super premium segment, where the main player is Beluga, and there are other brands that have been represented there for a long time: Mammoth, Kremlin Award, Belveder, Gray Goose, Imperia, etc. This is new for us category, we have never worked with it - we did not know how quickly we could arrange our vodka, because a brand can be good, but if you do not know how to work with vodka as a sales team, you can stall. It is important to know how to negotiate this category with restaurants. There, wine on tap is a separate conversation, champagne on tap is another conversation, a wine list is a third conversation, strong drinks are fourth, vodka is fifth, water is sixth. The restaurant talks to me about each product separately. The team that worked with me on the creation of Onegin are vodka guys with extensive experience who previously worked with Russian Standard and White Birch. But we didn't have any vodka drinkers in sales - we're a wine company, so we had conservative forecasts for Onegin's sales and listings. At the same time, we initially did not do any promo anywhere. It was very important for me that our vodka would not be rejected by the market in terms of the concept, appearance, by quality. And here, thank God, there were no problems in any of the terms.

- Did you have products that you took, and then faced with general rejection of them?

Yes. We had the Italian water Galvanina, which we sold before we took San Benedetto. So they took Galvanina - water and water, but she had such a flat taste, or something, and she didn’t go, well, at least kill yourself. Despite the fact that we arranged it, we signed contracts. Can you imagine? It happens like this: everything is fine, but customers do not like the taste - and that's all, they refused to drink it in restaurants, although there are no quality problems. And in the end we were forced to abandon it, because we realized that we could not do anything. In general, this is, of course, the rarest case, but it happens. That's why I was worried about Onegin, because we all understand vodka, this is our original product.

- Doesn't it seem strange to you that vodka with such a name is bottled in Ulyanovsk, and not in St. Petersburg?

The fact is that when we were just starting to release it, in St. Petersburg there was simply no one to come to with a proposal for a spill. Liviz is in bankruptcy, Ladoga also had some similar problems at that time. It’s not at Rustam Tariko’s that we pour: why does he need us?

- What is the next own product can Simple have after vodka?

I have a lot of ideas, but I won't say yet.

- Since you are still more of a wine trading company, I will assume that it will be wine.

And for wine there are ideas. It's just that wine, unlike vodka and a number of other industries, is a very long process. If you start creating something in it today, then you will need to talk about the result in seven to ten years. We have a project in Georgia, but we are still planting vineyards there. We harvested the first harvest last year, from which we made a test batch of wine as the beginning of the process of studying our terroir. Our experts look at what happened, how to work with it. Sales are still far away.

- When will you plant the first vineyards in Crimea?

We don't have land there.

- And when will the first land appear?

Good question. Don't know.

At the beginning of 2017, you had a photo on Instagram in which you are flying in a plane from Crimea, and the caption to it: “As always, we are starting something.”

Of course, we look with great interest at the Crimea as a very promising winemaking area. What to hide - everyone is looking at it. But there are several problems in Crimea. There are very few free wine-producing lands that the state can sell or lease to you. The market for agricultural land in Crimea has stopped, it simply does not exist. Private traders who bought these lands during the time of the Ukrainian government value it at crazy money, because they believe that this land is very good for building cottages, houses, villages, etc. But this is such insanity! The landowners think that someone will build something on these huge hectares. And no one will build anything there, because in the Moscow region they don’t build so much, but in the Crimea, who will build in such a volume? And here they are sitting like a dog in the hay, and the state still does not want to do anything about it. The state, I have said this more than once, in order to develop winemaking in a particular region, should create special wine clusters there. In order for someone to go to Crimea at all, fundamental issues must be resolved. First, land clearing is needed. It cannot be taken away, but you can forcibly buy it back if it has not been used for three years. To buy back the land from these negligent comrades, give them money and create a bank of land suitable for winemaking. Then investors will appear.

- In Crimea, there are often auctions for lands...

Yes, but do you think they are all great for winemaking? I have already looked at many sites, because we were asked to consult, and we ourselves were wondering what kind of terroir is in the Crimea. I can say that there are a lot of lands there, generally suitable for winemaking, but really not very good and interesting. But in the absence of a better one, they buy and plant on such lands. Another big issue related to our coming to Crimea is the sanctions. We are a company that does business with international partners. We seem to be looking at the Crimea, but we don’t even know how to theoretically enter there, even if we are offered a high-quality land allotment. How to go there now?

- That is, you will wait until the issue of the status of Crimea is finally resolved in one direction or another.

We just don't understand yet how it can be done. We are heavily dependent on international financial instruments, we work a lot with Western banks, with Russian subsidiaries of Western banks. If sanctions arrive, then these banks will close all relations with us. And how then to be? I really hope and believe that all this will be resolved in the foreseeable future and we will be able to apply our knowledge and energy in terms of the development of winemaking in Russia.

- In addition to the Crimea, there is also the Krasnodar Territory.

We don't want to go there.

- Why?

The same thing: do you see a lot of free land there? At reasonable prices?

- They say that almost everything is sold there: both vineyards and production.

There is a lot for sale, we even looked, but all this is not interesting for us. Firstly, we don't want to buy anything ready-made, because we have a greenfield concept. I love doing everything from scratch. Secondly, in Krasnodar Territory complex terroir. We believe that this is a rather risky winemaking zone, we do not want to take such risks: we cannot afford it.

- That is, for the time being you will deal with Russian wine only as a distributor?

Yes, we work with Russian winemakers: with Zolotaya Balka and Raevsky. We have excellent relations with them, we help them somewhere, we advise them on some issues. Because we see the market much better than they do. We would also consider other winemakers if they would suit us according to certain criteria.

- What is the share of Russian wine in your portfolio now?

Microscopic, I don't even know. Well, how much does "Zolotaya Balka" cost, how much does "Raevsky" cost? This is up to 500 rubles, up to 1 thousand rubles. This is very small compared to imports: somewhere around zero point, how many tenths.

It was expected that this year Russia will launch an online alcohol trade. If this ever happens, how do you think the market will change?

The first thing to understand is that the state needs the Internet alcohol trade not because it is another civilized sales channel, although this is important. What is important here is something completely different, namely the fact that, according to statistics, only 2% of food products are sold on the Internet from the total sales volume, while in the world this share reaches 10–12% and continues to grow! Why don't we sell food products online? Because these goods are not enough in the consumer's basket of more "heavy" goods, more expensive. Namely alcohol. What does this lead to? Moreover, the income from the customer's order sometimes does not even cover operating expenses for an operator of online food trade. How to develop here? As a result, this segment of trade is not growing and there is no competition with large retailers. After all, to build a big federal network only a few shops can do it, and to make an effective online grocery store in major city many can! Hence the absence of price cuts by networks, because they have no one to compete with. With each other, they can always agree, but with hundreds of online stores - no longer. Now that's real competition! Accordingly, the consumer does not even have a chance to get goods cheaper, and the state has in fact completely cut off such a global channel as online food trading, which all over the world greatly affects pricing in large retail. Secondly, you need to understand that the law on the legalization of the Internet sale of alcohol is a law aimed at ensuring that those consumers who want to purchase something interesting or unusual can have such an opportunity. After all, in supermarkets the assortment is limited, and the palette of alcoholic products is very large. Here I am primarily talking about high-quality and rare alcohol. And for many small producers, mainly winemakers, it is almost impossible to disappear on store shelves, and for them this is probably the only potential sales channel to the end consumer. This is also very important in the light of the desire of the state to achieve a significant development of domestic winemaking. Many mistakenly perceive this law as a law that is aimed at allowing vodka to be sold in wagons on the Internet. No one will do this on the Internet. Especially given the scheme of regulation and control that we developed jointly with Rosalkogolregulirovanie, the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Industry and Trade and the Ministry of Communications. Yourself will be more expensive. Besides, how to compete with the gray and black markets, which sell alcohol on the Internet without any law, if legal producers and importers are deprived of this opportunity? Whom do we support by the absence of this corral? Legal or illegal players? In the US, for example, some wineries make up to 60% of their sales through an online subscription, bypassing distribution channels. And America does not interfere with this, because these guys sometimes have limited access to restaurants and shops.

- What is the obstacle to the adoption of the law?

There seem to be no global obstacles, everything seems to be in general for the law. It is necessary that someone submit it for consideration to the State Duma - deputies or the government, we are working on this now. The bill has been agreed with everyone in the government, except for the moment the Ministry of Health, which traditionally has a dissenting opinion, believing that the law will increase the availability of alcohol for young people. According to statistics, the entire Internet alcohol business in the world is a consumer aged 25-45 with a fairly high income level, these are not 18-year-olds at all. How will the Internet increase the availability of alcohol if you order today and receive it tomorrow? What is the availability here? Alcohol is delivered from a licensed warehouse located somewhere not close, you also need to go through all the EGAIS procedures, and this is not at all fast. We discussed that it would take a minimum of three to four hours to bring the order. Yes, it's easier to run to the nearest store if I want to catch up. E-commerce is by no means the channel that will increase accessibility. Accessibility is different, accessibility is visual contact with the product at every corner. Now, if we allow alcohol to be sold again in tents and stalls, then this will be accessibility.

- you renamed most your Grand Cru wine cellars at SimpleWine. For what?

The Grand Cru wine cellar network began to develop in 2003 as a small chain of such super professional wine shops for connoisseurs. The market was such that there was no mass passion for wine yet. Therefore, both the name and the format of the wine cellars suited the moment. This went on for about eight years. Starting around 2011, the overall picture of wine consumption began to change rapidly. Wine became fashionable, more and more people were interested in it, began to open in in large numbers democratic wine bars - in a word, an active movement has begun. I followed all this closely. By the beginning of 2015, we already had about ten wineries - eight in Moscow and two in St. Petersburg, as well as two wine bars. I realized that our original concept no longer fits the changing market, and the Grand Cru name, too. Therefore, we not only rebranded the wine cellars, renaming them to SimpleWine, but also completely updated the design and concept. We have made high-quality, but at the same time quite affordable wine cellars, in which the price of wine starts at about 700 rubles. per bottle and everything is sold at our base price list. These are the kind of wine cellars where, in theory, those who have not enough choice in supermarkets and who want to talk with a cavist, start buying somehow more meaningfully, return with feedback about wines to the place where he is personally well known should come. Only the wine bar Grand Cru on Bronnaya in Moscow has retained its name and lives a separate life, because after the recent expansion and renovation, this gastronomic wine bar no longer fit into the new concept of the wine cellar chain.

In 2015-2017, we have already opened about 20 new wineries and will open 3 more soon. Now we have about 30 wineries, 4 of them in St. Petersburg, one in Rostov-on-Don, and the rest in Moscow. Probably, this year we will open five more in Moscow and a couple more in St. Petersburg. We want to have seven or eight stores there to completely cover the city. St. Petersburg is specific: geographically, everything is not like in Moscow, business is growing, but not as fast as in the capital. Then we have a SimpleWine wine cellar in Rostov-on-Don for several months. It is very important for me to look at the potential of a regional store, how people will perceive it, what sales will be, how they will grow from year to year. Because from the point of view of the regions, our store seems very luxurious, perhaps even pretentious, but in fact it is not so at all. You just need to enter it and start chatting with the kavist.

- Will you open in any other Russian cities?

I do not yet see the potential for opening a wine cellar in every half-million population: there are not enough customers there. I think that for the next few years it will be Moscow, St. Petersburg, plus million-plus cities, in which there will be two stores per city, in some, maybe three. But this is most likely a task somewhere in 2020 and beyond. For 2018–2019, the task is to complete development in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

- Do you want to develop your own restaurants?

We are not restaurateurs, we have no idea to develop the restaurant business as a business project. SimpleWine & Bar is a point that we opened in order to see people's interest in Grand Cru, to give them the opportunity to try interesting food and wine in a more attractive price segment. There, meals cost an average of 400-600 rubles, and a glass of wine starts at 300 rubles, which is very democratic. We have no desire to develop a network of such bars - this is a very complicated business. My first restaurant was opened 20 years ago - Baskerville billiards club, now it's called Parkhouse. So there is experience and understanding of all related problems too.

- Already not yours?

Mine is still. So I know all the subtleties and complexities of the restaurant business. This is a very difficult business, much less systemic and more subtle. Where the system seems to be clear, but everything must always be so correct, everything depends so much on the person.

- You can enter the restaurant market with more experienced partners.

On the one hand, yes. But on the other hand, since we do not set ourselves ambitious goals for making money here, not every partner needs such a project. Maybe in Moscow we will open another restaurant, but it all depends on the location and the offer. How was SimpleWine & Bar opened on Neglinnaya? We weren't looking for a place. A variant flew in, we looked, we thought - indeed, maybe in this place we can do it. When I open my bar, my soul hurts: I start to worry, worry about floristry, what hangs on the wall, what toilet paper, what napkins, how soap smells. I start to bother with this, because my bar is already a personal story, it's all between me and you, you know? Either everything is done as it should, or it falls apart. Arkady Novikov, Alexander Rappoport, Borya Zarkov, Andrey Delos, the Vasilchuk brothers and many others who have large system restaurant companies, they have created these control mechanisms over the years, built up management teams, the supply system, and therefore they have many projects. But they are practically only engaged in this business. And we're not talking about that.

Kashirin Maxim Sergeevich

Private bussiness

Born July 15, 1967 in Moscow. Graduated from the Tsiolkovsky Moscow Aviation Technological Institute with a degree in metallurgy and welding technology (1989). Studied at the Moscow Postgraduate state academy fine chemical technology them. M. V. Lomonosov.

In 1994, he founded and headed the wine distribution company Simple. In 1999 he founded the Enotria wine school. In 2003 he opened a chain of wine boutiques Grand Cru. Vice President of Opora Rossii, member of the Public Council of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia.

Commander of the Order of Merit for the Italian Republic, Commander of the Order of Merit for the French Republic in the region Agriculture, marked with thanks from the President, government and relevant departments of Russia.

LLC “Company “Simple””

company profile

Simple Company LLC was founded in 1994 by entrepreneurs Maxim Kashirin and Anatoly Korneev. Engaged in the import and distribution of wines, champagne, spirits, bar accessories, glass and crystal products. The non-alcoholic segment is handled by the Simple Waters division. The company cooperates with more than 450 manufacturers from 42 countries. In Russia, there is a network of wine cellars and wine bars SimpleWine (22 in Moscow, three in the Moscow region, five in St. Petersburg and one in Rostov-on-Don). In 1999, the company opened the wine school "Enotria", in 2007 - the travel agency Simple Travel. Since 2016, the company has been producing Onegin premium vodka. Since 2017, Simple Congress has been held for market professionals and Simple Wine Fest for consumers. The company employs more than 1 thousand people. The office of the parent company - Simple Group LLC - is located in Moscow. 99% of its shares are owned by Simple Wine Holdings Ltd, registered in Cyprus; 0.8% - Maxim Kashirin; 0.2% - Anatoly Korneev. The revenue of Simple Company LLC for 2016 is 9.65 billion rubles, net profit is 375.3 million rubles. CEO - Maxim Kashirin.

Interviewed by Oleg Trutnev